[Hcoop-discuss] next server set-up - colocation questions

[Shaun Empie]

I agree that colocation is the way to go from here.  I think one of the
main issues is how we are going to raise the funds to build the server(s)
that we will colocate.

There was some talk about Simpli's colocation service.  They seem very
reasonable as far as rackspace goes..but bandwidth is a bit pricey.

As far as the actual boxes, I think as long as we have a geographically
redundant design we'll be ok. So this means we'll need to find at least
two solid data centers.

-Shaun


> Hi all,
>
> Moving towards a new server, and an architecture that is scaleable in
> the ways discussed in this list, including Adam's post copied below,
> let's talk about co-location.  Sorry in advance if this is redundant, I
> am new to the list...
>
> On our co-location wiki page
> (http://wiki.hcoop.net/wiki/ColocationPlans), it looks like a four
> providers have been discussed.  Starting off the list we have GAIA Host
> (http://www.gaiahost.coop), which is a hosting co-operative.  Since
> most, if not all co-operatives seem to think it is valuable to help
> other co-operatives, what does everyone think about using this provider
> for co-location?  Has there been any discussion between our
> co-operatives?  Is this a viable option?  If we have spoken with this
> co-op, what are we looking at for monthly costs for a 1U or 2U server?
>
> Are there compelling reasons to choose any other provider over this one?
>
> Looking forward to hearing what our co-op has discussed in terms of
> colocation options!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Justin
>
>
> Adam Chlipala wrote:
>
>> Justin S. Leitgeb wrote:
>>
>>> With that, Shaun, Karl, Nathan, Adam, and others who may not have
>>> spoken up yet -- how do you see us building out our infrastructure to
>>> best leverage existing resources while leaving us space for
>>> anticipated growth?  Specifically, what resources do we have access
>>> to, now and in the near future, in terms of hardware and capital that
>>> we can put to use?  How do you see these resources being allocated?
>>
>>
>> We don't have terribly much that I see being an important part of the
>> next stage.
>>
>> We own one several-years-old server, Abulafia, which is colocated at
>> Xiolink now as backup DNS and similar.  I think the cost of buying a
>> new server exceeding its specifications is so low that owning it
>> doesn't make much of a difference.
>>
>> Our main server fyodor is rented as part of a "dedicated server" plan
>> from InterServer, so that doesn't count as an asset in the usual sense.
>>
>> As far as capital, we have $1,448.68 in our bank account now, with
>> $105.11 <https://history.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_history>
>> more on its way from PayPal.  We haven't been trying to accumulate
>> anything; this basically just accounts for each member paying enough
>> at once to make payments infrequent enough for his tastes.
>>
>> I anticipate obtaining the money to fund our next stages by setting
>> member dues appropriately.  I know that we have a disparity among
>> members in terms of what they're willing to pay, so I think it
>> probably makes sense to let members pledge to pay multiple shares.  I
>> would definitely do this.  To what extent this is necessary will
>> become clearer when we determine how much money we will need.
>>
>> <https://history.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_history>
>>
>>> Ideas about an ideal setup that would help us to adapt to future
>>> growth?
>>
>>
>> The main things of this sort that I think we need are:
>> - The ability to add new servers easily
>> - A shared file system, to let us share member home directories and
>> similar across these servers
>> - A solid system for organizing human administrators
>>
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