[HCoop-Help] Commercial Site for Others / Non-member

Rob Gubler rgubler at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 02:56:33 EDT 2009

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Davor Ocelic <docelic at hcoop.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:55:19 +0100
> Michal <michalcharemza at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If the answer to these questions are both yes, then there is no issue
> with
> > > you hosting these websites under your account, even if you are charging
> the
> > > customer for creating or hosting the website.
> > Great!
> >
> > > You may but are in no way
> > > obligated to pledge more.
> > I will consider it. It wouldn't seem fair to me that the business (and
> > so me, indirectly) would be making money from a non-profit
> > organization, without giving any money to it.
> In the past, we used a fee approach where we start with a total monthly
> expense and divide it by the number of members (and later pledges)
> to get a  per-month/per-person fee. This was leading to fees that
> were IIRC in the $2.41 to $7 range per month.
> Some time ago we have fixed the basic pledge at $5. It means that
> after the colocation costs and the minimal costs of running a non-profit
> are covered, new members or extra pledges put us in a position where we
> can accumulate a "reserve" and use it for expanding our services
> (through new hardware, colocation plans etc.).
> So, knowing the above, pledging more does help HCoop's prosperity, and may
> as well make you feel you're getting just the right deal with HCoop,
> without
> hitting either end of the spectrum (paying too much, or unconsideratively
> "abusing" HCoop's services).
> But, it is in no way mandatory to pledge more. Personally, I like to view
> HCoop as an organization that is delighting its members base. So, as long
> as you're paying the minimal $5 monthly fee to keep things running and
> you're
> not "reselling" the services, it is completely up to you to decide what
> constitutes "fairness", how you want to use HCoop, and how much you want to
> pledge for it, without judgement from any HCoop official or member

I think its worth mentioning that a number of people are generously pledging
above the minimum $5 per month.  Although I don't know the status today, it
used to be said that without those additional pledges the minimum pledge
would have to be raised.  I think it is completely reasonable to assume that
there be an increase in membership dues for those members acting as a
commercial entity providing services that piggy back on the core
functionality of  HCoop.

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