[HCoop-Discuss] The End?

[Scott Bailey]

Adam,

I like HCoop.  I'm just beginning to come up to speed on our organization
and am am sorry -- and concerned! -- to hear your frustration.

I can not offer much in the way of problem solving, yet, as I have a number
of hurdles to overcome before I *understand* the problems.

Further, I am sorry I missed the recent IRC planning meetings.  This is, I
assume, part of the problem, and your frustration.

So what admin issues/responsibilities are we discussing...?

Best Regards,
Scott Bailey




On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Adam Chlipala <adamc at hcoop.net> wrote:

> In August, I posted a message suggesting that I would be leaving HCoop
> admin/planning responsibilities very soon if there weren't signs that
> other people were working to take over the responsibilities assigned to
> me.  (I was/am willing to continue [still temporarily] with Domtool
> admin, since I have special knowledge of the tool; and treasurer duties,
> since I'm set up with official bank account access.)  Frankly, there
> have been no signs that this has happened, and I think someone with less
> of an emotional commitment to HCoop would have packed up and left already.
>
> A few people have volunteered to take over facilitating decision-making,
> but no one has followed through.  It's the "herding cats" element that's
> most critical here.  The crucial contribution that I've tired of making
> is organizing people to make decisions and get work done in reasonable
> time frames.  Upon volunteering to do this kind of organization, the
> volunteer is invariably surprised to see that merely starting a mailing
> list thread is insufficient to get a decision made.  Where I have always
> kept pushing on people to make progress, the recent volunteers for this
> role have just faded away into silence.  This is understandable; it's a
> thankless role, and I can see why people would want to avoid it.
> Nonetheless, we need to accept that HCoop is over unless we find some
> way to make decisions without using me as the operating system.
>
> I sent out my first plea of this kind about four months ago, and the
> critical issues are still "languishing in the mailing lists," waiting
> for some imaginary consensus decision-making process to produce final
> plans.  We at least managed to fix the mire Apache DoS problems, but
> that turned out to have a simple software solution, of the kind that
> geeks have no problem organizing to implement.
>
> So, what do you want to do?  (I think it's important for me to finally
> stop writing "we" in connection with HCoop, because that can only lead
> people to keep assuming I'll shoulder the same recurring burden.)  I
> have to admit that I'll be skeptical of any offers to take over
> people-organizing responsibilities, but I still feel like giving people
> a chance to offer.
>
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Scott Bailey
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