[HCoop-Discuss] On organizing people to get work done

David Snider david at davidsnider.net
Thu May 7 20:22:03 EDT 2009


Are you including co-location fees into your hardware costs? We've got
$750.00 going to peer 1. 1TB traffic at Amazon is roughly $104 for inbound
and $174 for outbound. So is the rest going to colocation? I'm not exactly
sure how to break down the costs.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 19:32:00 -0400, Adam Chlipala <adamc at hcoop.net> wrote:
> Daniel Margolis wrote:
>> We should try to put a price tag on hardware support. It's easy to
>> figure out the monthly cost of a VPS, so once we decide how much we're
>> going to pay for staffing (if we're going to pay for staffing, which
>> it sounds like there's some consensus on), we can at least estimate
>> how much staff time would be spent on hardware support if we go that
>> route. It's a good comparison to make.
> 
> David Snider wrote:
>> I'm not sure how to estimate the number of 'instance hours' we have on
>> HCOOP. I'd be curious to know what the cost of running HCOOP would be if
> we
>> were running a similar usage pattern on Amazon EC3.
> 
> I've been doing a lot of talking in this thread, so I just want to say
> explicitly that I don't know how to calculate either of these figures
> and have no particular plans to do so.  I'm going to go forward assuming
> that, with 100+ users, it's most cost-effective for us to have our own
> servers.  We may have been lucky so far hardware-failure-wise, but we've
> had truly negligible costs that I would file under "hardware support,"
> and I think staff, physical space, and power completely dominate
> "hardware support" in realistic accounting.
> 
> It would be interesting to read someone else's credible attempt at those
> calculations, though.
> 
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