[HCoop-Discuss] Our ideal architecture?
Adam Chlipala
adamc at hcoop.net
Wed Jun 3 09:12:48 EDT 2009
Davor Ocelic wrote:
> Openvz has very detailed resource usage limits, which are also
> conveniently displayed as a table in one of the /proc files, where
> a person can easily see existing containers, their limits, current
> usage and number of times the limits were overstepped.
>
> Here's partial output from that file, /proc/user_beancounters
> ("fitted" in 80 columns without wordwrap for your viewing pleasure):
>
> uid resource held maxheld barrier limit failcnt
> 104: kmemsize 857224 9942062 12752512 12752512 0
> lockedpages 0 0 256 256 0
>
Does "uid" mean "container ID" here? Are containers somehow conflated
with users?
> For example, if we were to give out VMs to members, I don't see ANY
> advantage that HCoop would have compared to any other VM provider.
Well, there are the advantages of democratic organization, but those
don't seem to motivate that large a fraction of our current membership,
so it probably also wouldn't matter much to potential VPS users.
One big one, though, could be the ability to mount HCoop AFS volumes. A
fancy-pants distributed file system maintained by someone else is
nothing to shrug off. In this scenario, a VM user could also rely on us
to back up all AFS volumes automatically and in a reasonable way.
There are a slew of other possible benefits of being near shared
machines, like being able to set up monitoring, development systems,
etc., in the same data center (with fast/free transfer), without needing
to manage extra machines.
I do strongly agree that we should ignore support for any per-member
VPSes until after we are happy with services along our current model,
though.
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