[Bond-users] release update

Wed Oct 31 11:08:43 EDT 2007

Sorry, I did not take it personal. I should not have used the first person
in the text.
Ibrahim

On 10/31/07, Davor Ocelic <docelic at mail.inet.hr> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:27:58PM +0100, Ibrahim Shaame wrote:
> > With all respect to bond programmers and maintainers, I think with
> > "configure - make - make install" I would have solved my problems a
> while
> > ago.
>
> (Btw, I am in no any relation with Bond or Treshna).
>
> Your problems would not have been solved with  C + M + M I  because
> your errors were of different nature and not related to Make vs. Scons
> problem.
>
> > I am not good in scons but I was expecting it to be easier, but the
> > result is that I have not managed to install bond and it does not say
> what's
> > wrong. I don't think when bond gives you this type of message it is
> question
> > of being experienced in compiling or not:
> > "src/bondapi.c:81: error: too few arguments to function `bonddb_loadall'
> > scons: *** [src/bondapi.o] Error 1
> > scons: building terminated because of errors."
> >
> > Is this an error caused by inexperienced person compiling?
>
> People who try to compile things must understand that compiling
> is just one level above actual coding.
>
> While the error you point out indeed is related to Bond code
> (and not to missing libs, invalid paths etc.), it is still
> - in my opinion - considered part of usual compile troubleshooting.
>
> In any case, I didn't have any intention to bring this to a
> personal level... I remember seeing a few emails that
> I have mentally put into the "not bond's fault" or "could have been
> solved by person themselves" category and I said what I said based
> on that (names and specific emails are irrelevant).
>
> Also, you are only competing with yourself here, so asking for
> technical help and being able to take well-intended criticism will
> move you forward, while complaining or taking things personally
> will not.
>
> -doc
>
>
>
> > On 10/31/07, Davor Ocelic <docelic at mail.inet.hr> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:54:28AM -0400, Jeff Watson wrote:
> > > > Whats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is it
> just
> > > > preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being
> used?
> > > The
> > > > build instructions are certainly very different than most project
> > > > distributions i have used. Curious...
> > >
> > > The instructions are the same as for almost every scons
> > > compile: scons && scons install.
> > >
> > > There's enough GNU Make pro & con articles on the web so you could
> > > look them up.
> > >
> > > All projects I saw that used scons were easy to install and
> > > worked literally with scons && scons install.
> > >
> > > Those compile problems that past few guys had were related to their
> > > build setup and their (in)experience with compiling software, not
> > > with Bond or scons.
> > >
> > > Cya,
> > > -doc
> > >
> > >
> > > >               -Jeff Watson
> > > >               -RedGibson at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > On 10/30/07, Dru <dru at treshna.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I thought
> I'd
> > > say
> > > > > it again with a
> > > > > brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > The major enhancements :
> > > > >
> > > > > This release is a big improvement over the previous version of
> bond,
> > > and
> > > > > has been long delayed for release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender
> widget,
> > > > > color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better
> > > date/time
> > > > > support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new
> windows
> > > or
> > > > > run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your
> application.
> > > > > User administration and locking down parts of the application down
> to
> > > > > certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL
> which
> > > > > follow back to the user interface.  Support for keystroke
> triggers, so
> > >
> > > > > you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip
> > > > > readers etc.   Revised of build system.  And many many bug fixes,
> and
> > > > > many other new features.
> > > > >
> > > > > I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone use
> these
> > > > > binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just
> > > wondering
> > > > > what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be
> trimmed
> > > > > back to keep the size of the downloads down.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at
> > > > > http://bugzilla.treshna.com
> > > > > This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are
> logged.
> > >
> > > > > So if there
> > > > > is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it
> fix,
> > > let
> > > > > us know.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.treshna.com/bond/
> > > > > http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Hill
> > > > > treshna Enterprises Ltd
> > > > > Tel: 03 366 3649
> > > > > Cel: 021 660 819
> > > > > Web: www.treshna.com
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> > > support
> > > > >
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