[Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread

[chr2eemail at comcast.net]

During the day Phil and I passed out about 250 leaflets. Anton took over for “second shift” around 5:00, and he was already doing very well when I left. Numerous favorable comments; and I think that four people told me that they were for sure going to be at the demonstration . Too many discussions with people to recount. Even had discussions with a couple of pro-war people whose general line was that “if we don’t fight them over there we’ll have to fight them over here.” 
Palestine Solidarity Network set up at the same place as we, and they had mobilized more than their usual number. So this gave us a chance to again encourage them to get behind October 17, plus give leaflets to those who’d not previously gotten it---all of whom were happy to get it. J. S. carried around one of our signs for awhile. 
Same plan for tomorrow![Total so far:  1733.]

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From: iskra at riseup.net

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Sent: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 03:19:17 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread



Here's how today's healthcare rally went:



I passed out 150 half-sheets in under 1.5 hours.  I was actually 

surprised at how many people were extremely supportive of the flyer's 

headline.  There was only one sort-of-hostile comment, and only two 

others who said they disagreed.  Of course, not everyone wanted a 

leaflet, and many of these people may have either been outright 

supporters of the Afghanistan war or undecided (or opponents of the war 

who didn't see the point in going to a march).



Some highlights:

*A Quaker read the leaflet and came back to say he'd put it up at their 

meeting house in the U District.  I asked if he wanted a few more flyers 

to pass out and he took about 10.

*I asked an FSP woman if they were going to be there and she said "yes," 

and I said I'd be sure to email the next meeting information to them. 

(Actually, they have been getting it all along.)

*A VFP guy said he'd be there and that he had been getting the mailings 

(from Anton or Marty I assume).  He said he had been too busy to make it 

to our meetings so far but I said he'd hear about the next one on 

September 16 as soon as we had the location confirmed.  (I hope this is 

in progress.)



--Edward





chr2eemail at comcast.net wrote:

> The protest against torture-Judge Bybee was attended by about 10-12 

> people. My main objective was to talk with people---particularly 

> groups---about getting behind building for October 17. And this was easy 

> to do in such a small crowd. But WCW, of course, already knew all about 

> it, while the PDA circles were polite but non-committal. An unconnected 

> guy said that he would be at the demonstration. I passed out 15 leaflets.

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> 23^rd and Jackson, Sunday, 8-29.

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> Passed out 40 leaflets advertising the event, which I think was good 

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> the youth march which formed up at the same place. (There were about 

> 8-10 youths present, the majority of whom wanted leaflets. Of the 15 or 

> so adults, only a few wanted leaflets.)--Fk.

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> Foot traffic generally slow.  Rate of interest comparatively low 

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> with him.  No other real conversations, but a good handful of comments 

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> Foot traffic also slow, perhaps slower than Broadway.  I had one 

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> paused to leaflet.  A young kid, probably 10, who was moderately fluent 

> in English translated for me to his father (?) explaining that the 

> leaflet was opposing the wars in Pakistan and Afghanistan.  The kid was 

> _very_ excited about the leaflet, and asked first for one, then for 

> four, and then for "a whole bunch", "to give to everyone".  I stayed 

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> ran inside to leaflet.  100% of those who passed by me took a leaflet, 

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> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:07:57 +0000

> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net

> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net

> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread

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> Phil and I passed out about 70 leaflets with advertisements for O-17. 

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> I talked with an older guy who’s around FSP. He hadn’t heard about the 

> demonstration, and was enthusiastic for it. But he thought that FSP must 

> be part of the Oct.17 Mobilization and just hadn‘t spread the word yet. 

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> replied: “Yeah, we should be part of that. I’ll talk to Chris.“

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> Garfield “community” event, which was very small, maybe 75 people there

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> Saddam had tried to kill his father, etc.  He was very mad about the 

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> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:59:10 +0000

> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net

> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net

> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?

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> The VFP action (10-15 people) was probably the biggest since Folklife 

> weekend. Three ANSWER people were also there. One person told me that 

> Marty and Anton had gotten the Oct. 17 info into the VFP minutes, which 

> is good; and nearly everyone I talked with about the demonstration was 

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> While there, I passed out 62 more leaflets (most lySAIC). 3-4 pro-war 

> comments were a good reminder that the battle for the hearts and minds 

> of the masses continues. Also talked with someone about putting the 

> demonstration info on stickers (he likes to put up political stickers 

> around town), and I’m pretty sure that he'll do it. 

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> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net

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> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net

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> Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC)

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> Passed out 52 leaflets in about 1 hour 20 minutes. One young guy had 

> already gotten it at Hempfest, and said he liked it. Another young guy 

> was very happy to get the leaflet, but very unhappy that he’s going to 

> be in Portland on the 17^th . Wondered if I knew if there was going to 

> be an eighth anniversary demonstration there, but I couldn’t answer. A 

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> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net

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> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net

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> Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:50:57 +0000 (UTC)

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> 1) I passed out 60 of some combination of the SAIC and “Mobe” flyers on 

> Broadway this evening. Best response was from a woman my age who said “I 

> agree w/ that TOTALLY” when she saw what the leaflets were about. She 

> was in a rush, but upon returning from her errand she thanked me some 

> more. The only negative comment was from a guy who asked, “What are you 

> going to do when they land at Alki?”

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> Ran into several anti-war people who I already know, and gave them 

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> --WWP’s Jim M. First words were to ask about the demonstration. (I was 

> worried that WWP hadn’t gotten the invitation to the first meeting 

> because we didn’t have a good address, but it turned out that he’d seen 

> the Indymedia announcement. Now also have his phone number.)

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> --PM of the old SCCCAWC. Unhappy that there’s no longer a mass anti-war 

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> and the formation of this mobilizing effort. (Of the people who I talked 

> with about the 2^nd , I think that he’s most likely to attend.)

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> the demonstration, which he’d heard about through our e-mailings. 

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> 2) Reports of leafleting experiences have begun to be posted here, which 

> I think this is just what we should do. It gives us a concrete picture 

> of what we’re doing, where we might pick up slack, and so on. 

> Additionally, I think that news of articles, postings, radio 

> announcements, etc., should also be posted here. For example, SDS Tacoma 

> today posted the information from the flyer on its website. Further, 

> SAIC has had experience in trying to keep reports of leafleting, 

> postering and so on all in one thread. I think that this is a convenient 

> way of keeping track of this info that seems to work well for us, and 

> can work well for this united front effort.

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