From keverets at hcoop.net Wed Jun 16 07:06:12 2021 From: keverets at hcoop.net (keverets) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:06:12 -0400 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> Message-ID: <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> On 2021-05-30 02:19, Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote: > As the channel on Libera is in place already, the move would amount to > changing > references to the chat on the web site and wiki, and announcing the > move on the > Freenode channel. The latter might get us kicked out of the channel, > which I > suppose will work well enough for finalizing the move. I think we can > leave it > to the channel operators for the Freenode channel to handle that as > they wish. As these actions were taken, it would also be prudent to send out an email announcement for those that weren't lurking in IRC (and are unlikely to check the wiki page). From bkhl at elektrubadur.se Wed Jun 16 07:17:58 2021 From: bkhl at elektrubadur.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Lindstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:17:58 +0700 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> Message-ID: On 2021-06-16 18:06, keverets wrote: > On 2021-05-30 02:19, Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote: >> As the channel on Libera is in place already, the move would amount to >> changing >> references to the chat on the web site and wiki, and announcing the >> move on the >> Freenode channel. The latter might get us kicked out of the channel, >> which I >> suppose will work well enough for finalizing the move. I think we can >> leave it >> to the channel operators for the Freenode channel to handle that as >> they wish. > > As these actions were taken, it would also be prudent to send out an > email announcement for those that weren't lurking in IRC (and are > unlikely to check the wiki page). Yes, I figured we would wait though until the next board meeting and send out an announcement including any formal decisions made there. I guess it should be due soon anyway? / Bj?rn From keverets at hcoop.net Wed Jun 16 07:43:27 2021 From: keverets at hcoop.net (keverets) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:43:27 -0400 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> Message-ID: <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> On 2021-06-16 07:17, Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote: > On 2021-06-16 18:06, keverets wrote: >> As these actions were taken, it would also be prudent to send out an >> email announcement for those that weren't lurking in IRC (and are >> unlikely to check the wiki page). > > Yes, I figured we would wait though until the next board meeting and > send out an announcement including any formal decisions made there. I > guess it should be due soon anyway? My concern is that the IRC channel is used by some as adhoc support, and if they haven't been following along closely it won't be clear now what happened, as there are still people lurking in the channel. As the core members have already moved and dropped the old one, waiting for a board meeting some time in the future leaves a growing gap between the action and the announcement. We'll have to be very clear about the new location of the board meeting, too. From bkhl at elektrubadur.se Wed Jun 16 07:50:00 2021 From: bkhl at elektrubadur.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Lindstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:50:00 +0700 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> Message-ID: On 2021-06-16 18:43, keverets wrote: > My concern is that the IRC channel is used by some as adhoc support, > and if they haven't been following along closely it won't be clear now > what happened, as there are still people lurking in the channel. As > the core members have already moved and dropped the old one, waiting > for a board meeting some time in the future leaves a growing gap > between the action and the announcement. > > We'll have to be very clear about the new location of the board > meeting, too. Good point, maybe we should do that at the same time? I.e. pick a date for a board meeting, announce the move, and encourage people that want to give input on the future direction of chat solutions to participate in the meeting? / Bj?rn From pronovic at hcoop.net Wed Jun 16 08:46:35 2021 From: pronovic at hcoop.net (Kenneth Pronovici) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:46:35 -0500 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> Message-ID: Board meetings are quarterly, and I would normally not even be trying to schedule the next one until late July - my next calendar reminder to do this is on July 25. We probably should send out some communication before then. I can send the announcement, but I would appreciate some help drafting a brief statement with the relevant instructions and pointer to the right wiki pages. I know enough from this thread and by following discussions elsewhere (like at Debian) to add some brief background to those instructions. KEN On Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 06:50 Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote: > On 2021-06-16 18:43, keverets wrote: > > My concern is that the IRC channel is used by some as adhoc support, > > and if they haven't been following along closely it won't be clear now > > what happened, as there are still people lurking in the channel. As > > the core members have already moved and dropped the old one, waiting > > for a board meeting some time in the future leaves a growing gap > > between the action and the announcement. > > > > We'll have to be very clear about the new location of the board > > meeting, too. > > Good point, maybe we should do that at the same time? I.e. pick a date > for a board meeting, announce the move, and encourage people that want > to give input on the future direction of chat solutions to participate > in the meeting? > > / Bj?rn > > _______________________________________________ > HCoop-Discuss mailing list > HCoop-Discuss at lists.hcoop.net > https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bkhl at elektrubadur.se Wed Jun 16 23:53:35 2021 From: bkhl at elektrubadur.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Lindstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:53:35 +0700 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> Message-ID: On 2021-06-16 19:46, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > I can send the announcement, but I would > appreciate some help drafting a brief statement with the relevant > instructions and pointer to the right wiki pages. https://board.net/p/HCoop_board has a draft by me and Clinton, I think you can look that over and then send it to the announcement list. / Bj?rn From pronovic at hcoop.net Thu Jun 17 17:05:32 2021 From: pronovic at hcoop.net (Kenneth Pronovici) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:05:32 -0500 Subject: [HCoop-Discuss] Proposal to change our official IRC presence In-Reply-To: References: <87v9722ie8.fsf@hcoop.net> <20210529162630.GA29065@hcoop.net> <2ee85aed879b067044d362a153cf22bb@hcoop.net> <2def8fb801ce56011149cda33088c288@hcoop.net> Message-ID: Ok, I sent it with minor editing. Thanks for the help. KEN On Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 22:53 Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote: > On 2021-06-16 19:46, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > I can send the announcement, but I would > > appreciate some help drafting a brief statement with the relevant > > instructions and pointer to the right wiki pages. > > https://board.net/p/HCoop_board has a draft by me and Clinton, I think > you can look that over and then send it to the announcement list. > > / Bj?rn > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: