[HCoop-Discuss] On organizing people to get work done
Daniel Margolis
dan at af0.net
Fri May 8 15:32:28 EDT 2009
They do give you a shell. And of course they "oversell". So do insurance
companies. So what?
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Clinton Ebadi <clinton at unknownlamer.org>wrote:
> Daniel Margolis <dan at af0.net> writes:
>
> > Why should/do people choose HCoop over, say, Dreamhost? For me, it's
> > mostly about price--most hosting services that offer the featureset
> > HCoop offers also offer far more resources (bandwidth and disk space)
> > than I need and, hence, cost significantly more.
> >
> > That doesn't mean that those commercial services don't offer an
> > equivalent or lower unit cost than we do--especially if we are to take
> > on paid employees (as we ought to to have comparable service), we should
> > assume that the operating expenses of someone like Dreamhost are
> > significantly lower (no?).
> >
> > So at least from my perspective, I think the economic advantage of HCoop
> > is that by purchasing in bulk (essentially), we allow individual users
> > to buy in very small purchases (i.e., I can get a hundred megs of disk
> > and similar amounts of bandwidth for a $3 a month, rather than 500GB of
> > storage at Dreamhost for $10/month--notice that Dreamhost's unit costs
> > are still lower, though).
>
> Dreamhost massively oversells capacity--as do all shared hosting
> providers. They can sell you a seemingly absurd amount of disk space and
> bandwidth for next to nothing because a significant portion of their
> userbase does next to nothing with their accounts.
>
> You also do not get a shell account and afs space as Adam pointed
> out. HCoop is nice--you can run your own daemons (e.g. I run small web
> application written in Common Lisp sitting behind mod_proxy for
> flagrantpork) *without* having to maintain your own UNIX system as with
> a VPS. This is worth quite a bit more than $5/month.
>
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