[Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread
Phil West
phil_west at comcast.net
Tue Sep 22 20:26:33 EDT 2009
I went to the Health Care for All rally today downtown, and handed out
about 42 leaflets. I met Meghan Cornish from RW/FSP there and also Dan
from SA, and asked both of them if their organizations were going to
participate in October 17, and they said they believed so. I asked them
to raise the question of an endorsement, and they said that they
would. Both of them were friendly. I also saw that MoveOn.org, which
was one of the co-sponsors of this rally, had a small PA system that
they said they bought from Best Buy for around $100. It looked like a
step above a bullhorn, portable and rechargeable/battery powered. If we
cannot get larger system by renting it, it might be a good idea to buy
one. The rally was about evenly divided between supporters of a public
option such as Medicare for all, and supporters of single payer.
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Eric Gordan wrote:
> Saturday: Helen, Edward and I went out postering and leafletting.
> Helen passed out 20 leaflets, while E and I put up the half-sheets as
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> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:13:18 +0000
> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net
> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net
> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread
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> Phil, Alex and me handed out 143 leaflets on northern Broadway. Lots
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> We also had signs with a slogan against the wars in Iraq and
> Afghanistan on one side, and the demonstration information on the
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> Total as of Saturday afternoon: 2413. (This does not count the small
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> Today, Phil and I leafletted the Israeli war resisters talk at the
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> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:59:43 +0000
> From: chr2eemail at comcast.net
> To: antiwar at lists.hcoop.net
> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread
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> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread (Plus
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