Here is my suggestion:<br><br>Improve the documentation so new members have better awareness of the mailing lists and policies.<br><br>That would have helped me.<br><br>SB<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:06 AM, kattla <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kattla@hcoop.net">kattla@hcoop.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">How about ignoring the issue? Is it not reasonable to expect people<br>
who has subscribed manually with a non-hcoop address to also<br>
unsubscribe manually when they leave hcoop (unless they still want to<br>
be subscribed)?<br>
If for some lists we really don't want non-members we don't have to<br>
allow non-hcoop addresses for those.<br>
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Adam Chlipala <<a href="mailto:adamc@hcoop.net">adamc@hcoop.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Richard Darst wrote:<br>
>> Hello -discuss,<br>
>><br>
>> At first, I wasn't going to comment since I figured it wouldn't come<br>
>> to anything, but this morning I was thinking that I should say<br>
>> something, at least to promote the spirit I'd rather hcoop be...<br>
>><br>
>> (Moving to -discuss since this is more of a philosophical thing)<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 02:25:24PM -0400, Adam Chlipala wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> - Our current policy is not to allow subscriptions from addresses that<br>
>>> aren't in the form <a href="mailto:USER@hcoop.net">USER@hcoop.net</a>. Members should subscribe only<br>
>>> through the portal, and you should reject direct subscription requests<br>
>>> of any kind. Sending from non-HCoop addresses is supported through<br>
>>> whitelisting by moderators, and receipt of list mail at arbitrary<br>
>>> addresses is supported by forwarding from HCoop accounts. (The policy<br>
>>> is open to discussion, but I still think it's the right way to do things.)<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> I strongly feel that this isn't the right default policy...<br>
>><br>
>> As an open, community, cooperative project, I think defaults should be<br>
>> open. (of course, there could be specific exceptions, like the<br>
>> sysadmin list what was already discussed at some point in the past.)<br>
>> I think the question should be "why not" rather than "why".<br>
>><br>
><br>
> One non-trivial administrative issue is removing people from lists<br>
> automatically when they leave the co-op, either explicitly or by<br>
> ignoring us and refusing to pay. Our current destroy-user script just<br>
> unsubscribes that user's @<a href="http://hcoop.net" target="_blank">hcoop.net</a> address from all lists. It would be<br>
> a pain to figure out which subscriptions belong to that user.<br>
><br>
> In general, I'm willing to go along with whatever policy folks want, as<br>
> long as it doesn't make more work for me. I'm currently the sole person<br>
> creating and destroying accounts, so the subject of this thread does<br>
> affect me.<br>
><br>
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