Are there "jobs" that non-sysadmin people could do to help the coop run more efficiently and grow? For example, a better public website would help a lot, and perhaps some non-technical people (like myself) would be interested in helping with things like that for a discounted rate. I support the idea of people with "jobs" paying less than people who don't contribute.<br>
<br>Lauren<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:32 PM, David Snider <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@davidsnider.net">david@davidsnider.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Would you mind elaborating on why you think it would be unwise to use<br>
virtualization?<br>
<br>
Also, we can't just divide and conquer the Admin tasks because it requires<br>
people with a very specialized skill set that I think most members here<br>
don't have. I know I don't.<br>
<br>
On Mon, 11 May 2009 22:06:19 -0400 (EDT), "Shaun Empie" <<a href="mailto:shaun@vpit.net">shaun@vpit.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> I've historically been a quiet member but this discussion seems important<br>
> to where this coop goes into the future. I think moving to a completely<br>
> virtual setup would be unwise. That may be a great idea for geographic<br>
> redundancy and backup though. It would allow us to backup important<br>
> services and information at little cost off-site.<br>
><br>
> As for getting people involved, let's not forget this is a cooperative.<br>
> Each one of us has or should have a responsibility to the coop. Instead<br>
> of relying on one or two volunteers or paid staff to administer the<br>
setup,<br>
> could we devise a way to get every member involved? I think the default<br>
> membership should be a set of dues and a job. If you don't want to<br>
> perform a job, then you pay a bit extra. With over 100 members we can<br>
> split into committees and break up the jobs so that no one person has too<br>
> much work. It seems that this would scale well and foster a better<br>
> atmosphere. I don't like this idea that I pay the coop my $5 dues and<br>
> "they" owe me something. If I wanted that I'd pay a hosting company that<br>
> provides a SLA. I think we need a major culture shift.<br>
><br>
> -Shaun<br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> HCoop-Discuss mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:HCoop-Discuss@lists.hcoop.net">HCoop-Discuss@lists.hcoop.net</a><br>
> <a href="https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss</a><br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
HCoop-Discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:HCoop-Discuss@lists.hcoop.net">HCoop-Discuss@lists.hcoop.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>