<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Nathan Kennedy wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I had previously discussed environmental policy here and in #hcoop and</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">got some positive feedback, but Adam wanted me to bring it up on the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">list again before we act on it.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The immediate action I want to take is to have HCoop buy wind energy</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">credits from NativeEnergy to offset its electricity consumption at</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Peer1.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>At our current level the 5000 megawatt per annum level at $4</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">per month would suffice.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I previously pledged to donate the first</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">year's worth of credits to the co-op, so this will not cost members</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for a year, and thereafter it should continue to cost well under $0.05</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">per month per member.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think this is important and beneficial for many reasons, outlined at</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">EnvironmentalPolicy on the wiki, and I propose that the board adopt</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">all the proposals at that page as official HCoop policy henceforth.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am afraid that at this point, I must express my strong desire NOT to proceed as proposed. Most of the suggestions on the EnvironmentalPolicy wiki I do like, recycling our equipment and using paper, etc. is simply common sense. I have a strong resistance currently to paying (even a small amount) these organizations. These do not stem from a resistance to the support of these types of energy saving projects. However, I have not had time to research these companies, and many of these organizations seem to also use the money to fund other projects which I do not support. That is, I am not interested in providing funding for the EPA, or any special interest groups which tend to be associated with these types of "Green" projects. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If someone could point me to some of the resources that might give me some more detailed information about where these organizations spend their money, I would be able to more quickly assess my personal opinion about this action. I do like the idea of a private organization or co-op like ourselves funding a project to assist in private companies building and creating cleaner energy plants, etc. I do not like the idea of an organization llike ours providing funds to a company or organization which also spends these funds, not only on private action, but political lobbying to impel government to action, usually in the form of regulation and legislation. So long as these organizations are strictly operating only in the private sector, I'm okay; if these organizations attempt to achieve their ends through government intervention, however, I would like to express my strong opposition.</DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Aaron W. 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