<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Oct 19, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Adam Chlipala wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Aaron Hsu wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I have the mail.hcoop.net certificate installed as an X509Anchor in my<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Keychain (Mac OS 10.4.8) and it seems to work fine for validating that<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">server in receiving mail. However, since I am very mobile I have been<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">using HCoop's SMTP server for sending my mail, and it still does not<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">validate. Is there another type of certificate or such which I have to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">install to verify the SMTP server?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="text-align: left;"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think this issue has been raised before, and my response was that<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">everything is administered by volunteers, and the current set of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">volunteers don't have the SSL expertise to fix the problem.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>That means<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that the problem will remain unless one or more members take the time to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">develop a solution.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If you need extra file permissions or other help to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">do this, then we're quite happy to comply.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Yes, I would like to take the time to fix this problem. I have a theory, but I don't really know if I would be able to debug it currently. One thing that I might ask, is that I assume the same name information is being sent whether the domain is mail.hcoop.net SMTP or IMAP, right?<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks,<DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Aaron W. Hsu</DIV><DIV><A href="mailto:arcfide@sacrificumdeo.net">arcfide@sacrificumdeo.net</A></DIV><DIV>Phone: 703-597-7656</DIV><DIV>IM: <A href="mailto:arcfide@hcoop.net">arcfide@hcoop.net</A> (Jabber/XMPP/GTalk)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>