So bear with me...what benefits am I getting at the moment from keeping Abu going online? Now if keeping it going meant that one would (optionally?) pay $1.50+- month extra for some specific features (that I might not need or ever use, but others depend on), or level of service (backup in case of primary outage), then I'd agree...but right now, for my limited needs (a local community chat-room), I don't see the advantage. So $1.50 isn't much, true, but for me, it would get me 25min of voice calls to users (most important) or 30 pages of copies or 3 stamps. -- ntk@hcoop.net wrote: (snip'd) 3. Possibly take Abulafia offline and try to ebay it, as it isn't doing much and it would save cost-sensitive users like John an extra $1.50/month. On the other hand we aren't paying much, we own the server, and it could be put to better use.