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<P>{This aborted the first time I tried, so here it is again.Fk.]<br><br>Broadway, Thursday. 31 leaflets in about an hour. Three people wanted an extra one or two, including an SCCC worker who always takes SAIC leaflets.</P>
<P>Total to date: 1,988. (And we’re only starting, comrades!)</P></font><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br>From: Phil West <PHIL_WEST@COMCAST.NET><br><br>To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br><br>Sent: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:22:20 +0000 (UTC)<br><br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br>I went to the King County Labor Council Labor Day picnic at Lower<br><br>Woodland and passed out about 24 leaflets, some to Boeing friends of<br><br>mine. I got into several very interesting conversations about events<br><br>at Boeing - the 787 project is way behind schedule, largely due to the<br><br>business model of outsourcing everything to suppliers who don't have<br><br>the experience or staffing to do things right. Makes you afraid to<br><br>fly. And Boeing has been trying to play hardball with SPEEA units, and<br><br>the SPEEA units are beginning to fight back. It was good to see my<br><br>friends. I got an information leaflet about an action by the UNITE<br><br>HERE union to promote organizing hotel workers starting September 13,<br><br>in the morning. It should be interesting to leaflet that event. <br><br><br><br><br><br>Phil<br><br><br><br><br><br><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A> wrote:<br><br>
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<P>During the day Phil and I passed out about 250 leaflets. Anton<br><br>took over for “second shift” around 5:00, and he was already doing very<br><br>well when I left. Numerous favorable comments; and I think that four<br><br>people told me that they were for sure going to be at the demonstration<br><br>. Too many discussions with people to recount. Even had discussions<br><br>with a couple of pro-war people whose general line was that “if we<br><br>don’t fight them over there we’ll have to fight them over here.” </P><br><br>
<P>Palestine Solidarity Network set up at the same place as we, and<br><br>they had mobilized more than their usual number. So this gave us a<br><br>chance to again encourage them to get behind October 17, plus give<br><br>leaflets to those who’d not previously gotten it---all of whom were<br><br>happy to get it. J. S. carried around one of our signs for awhile. </P><br><br>
<P>Same plan for tomorrow!</P><br><br> </font>[Total so far: 1733.]<br><br><br> <br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:iskra@riseup.net" target=_blank>iskra@riseup.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>Sent: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 03:19:17 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>Here's how today's healthcare rally went:<br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>I passed out 150 half-sheets in under 1.5 hours. I was actually <br><br><br> <br><br><br>surprised at how many people were extremely supportive of the flyer's <br><br><br> <br><br><br>headline. There was only one sort-of-hostile comment, and only two <br><br><br> <br><br><br>others who said they disagreed. Of course, not everyone wanted a <br><br><br> <br><br><br>leaflet, and many of these people may have either been outright <br><br><br> <br><br><br>supporters of the Afghanistan war or undecided (or opponents of the war<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>who didn't see the point in going to a march).<br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>Some highlights:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>*A Quaker read the leaflet and came back to say he'd put it up at their<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>meeting house in the U District. I asked if he wanted a few more<br><br>flyers <br><br><br> <br><br><br>to pass out and he took about 10.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>*I asked an FSP woman if they were going to be there and she said<br><br>"yes," <br><br><br> <br><br><br>and I said I'd be sure to email the next meeting information to them. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>(Actually, they have been getting it all along.)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>*A VFP guy said he'd be there and that he had been getting the mailings<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>(from Anton or Marty I assume). He said he had been too busy to make<br><br>it <br><br><br> <br><br><br>to our meetings so far but I said he'd hear about the next one on <br><br><br> <br><br><br>September 16 as soon as we had the location confirmed. (I hope this is<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>in progress.)<br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>--Edward<br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A> wrote:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> The protest against torture-Judge Bybee was attended by about<br><br>10-12 <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> people. My main objective was to talk with people---particularly <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> groups---about getting behind building for October 17. And this<br><br>was easy <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> to do in such a small crowd. But WCW, of course, already knew all<br><br>about <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> it, while the PDA circles were polite but non-committal. An<br><br>unconnected <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> guy said that he would be at the demonstration. I passed out 15<br><br>leaflets.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Total reported by all to date: 1333.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:49:50 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> 23^rd and Jackson, Sunday, 8-29.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Passed out 40 leaflets advertising the event, which I think was<br><br>good <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> considering that there were few people there. About 10 of these<br><br>went to <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the youth march which formed up at the same place. (There were<br><br>about <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> 8-10 youths present, the majority of whom wanted leaflets. Of the<br><br>15 or <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> so adults, only a few wanted leaflets.)--Fk.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: Eric Gordan<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: antiwar<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Sent: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:49:46 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I was out doing mass work from 11:30 to 1:30 today, and I split my<br><br>time <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> between three locations.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Broadway:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Foot traffic generally slow. Rate of interest comparatively low <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> relative to the rate I had last weekend on the streets in the CD,<br><br>but <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> not bad. Only one negative comment, from someone who identified<br><br>himself <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> as military, and disputed reasons for the war that I gave. I gave<br><br>one <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> to a young man who identified himself as an RCP supporter. I<br><br>recognized <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> him, but I don't know his name, and I didn't have a chance to<br><br>converse <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> with him. No other real conversations, but a good handful of<br><br>comments <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> like "keep up the good work", "I support you all the way", and<br><br>"the <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> President sure isn't going to [end the wars]". Passed out about<br><br>15 <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> leaflets with the demo announcement.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> University District:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Foot traffic also slow, perhaps slower than Broadway. I had one <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> conversation with an older man who agreed with the headline. When<br><br>he <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> said he thought it was because of "stupidity", I countered,<br><br>describing <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the bases for the wars as I understood them, and he agreed with<br><br>that, <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> also, but he kept going back to "stupidity" as the root. As we<br><br>talked <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> more, it was clear that he had some strange ideas about things in <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> general. Passed out only 10, partly as a result of this man. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> 23rd & Union:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> At the same location where I leafletted several cab drivers last <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> weekend, there was a moderate-sized Muslim gathering breaking up,<br><br>so I <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> paused to leaflet. A young kid, probably 10, who was moderately<br><br>fluent <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> in English translated for me to his father (?) explaining that the<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> leaflet was opposing the wars in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The<br><br>kid was <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> _very_ excited about the leaflet, and asked first for one, then<br><br>for <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> four, and then for "a whole bunch", "to give to everyone". I<br><br>stayed <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> outside the gathering place, and leafletted people as they left,<br><br>and he <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ran inside to leaflet. 100% of those who passed by me took a<br><br>leaflet, <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> and between the two of us, we passed out about 60. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Since I was bussing between the three places, I also leafletted<br><br>the all <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> of bus drivers and a couple of the passengers. I didn't have as<br><br>good a <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> reception on the busses this time as I have other times I tried<br><br>it. I <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> think it depends a lot on the route, time of day, day of week, and<br><br>how <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> crowded the bus is (the more crowded the better, up to a point).<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> In total, 97 leaflets passed out.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:07:57 +0000<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> University Ave., early-afternoon Saturday:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Phil and I passed out about 70 leaflets with advertisements for<br><br>O-17. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> After first rejecting it, several people came back to get a<br><br>leaflet when <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> it registered on them what it was about. When intently reading it<br><br>as he <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> walked away, one guy exclaimed, “totally!” re: something he’d read.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Phil had 2-3 quite wide-ranging political discussions.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I talked with an older guy who’s around FSP. He hadn’t heard about<br><br>the <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> demonstration, and was enthusiastic for it. But he thought that<br><br>FSP must <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> be part of the Oct.17 Mobilization and just hadn‘t spread the word<br><br>yet. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I explained that it wasn’t, and told him about the meeting, etc.<br><br>He <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> replied: “Yeah, we should be part of that. I’ll talk to Chris.“<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> So we’ll see what happens. (FSP and Radical Women people have<br><br>received <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> all of our e-mailings, by the way.)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: Eric Gordan<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: anntiwar<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:23 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I wasn’t able to get to the demo downtown today, but I was<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> able to get out for a while later, around 5. I almost didn’t get<br><br>out, <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> because my time was tight, and the<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> printer kept jamming, but I did finally get 100 SAIC leaflets<br><br>printed. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I still had about 50+ of the coalition<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> half-sheets. I went to the<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Garfield “community” event, which was very small, maybe 75 people<br><br>there<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> total. It was just a lot of booths<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> advertising replacement windows, Pepsi, etc. There were also a<br><br>few <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> non-commercial booths, like a woman<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> with some org that wasn’t familiar who was trying to get Single<br><br>Payer <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> “on the<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> table” in DC, and some kind of foster care agency, and others. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I had a couple of conversations there. One clean cut young<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> guy selling something took a leaflet and started asking questions<br><br>-- <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> what does<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> this title mean? Isn’t the US removing troops from Afghanistan?<br><br>Why is <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the US<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> there? The older man he had been<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> talking to when I came up jumped in and explained that it was for <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> control of territory,<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> no, it wasn’t about helping the Afghan people, etc. He had some<br><br>facts <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> wrong (like he thought there was<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> significant oil there), but he understood US motives well.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> After about 20 minutes there, though, I had made the circuit<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> and offered everyone there a leaflet. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> So I circulated through the neighborhood, walking along 23rd,<br><br>across<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Cherry, up to Union. There are a<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> number of coffee places along there that cater to cab drivers and<br><br>there are<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> other small storefronts. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> There were a moderate number of people out on the streets, and a<br><br>high<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> percentage of them took leaflets. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> On that walk, I had several good conversations, one with an<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Asian woman behind the counter at a coffee place. When I offered<br><br>her a <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> leaflet, she took one, and asked what<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> is this about. When I explained<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> (there was a little language barrier) she said, “yes, why<br><br>not! The <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> soldiers should all get out of<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> there”, and she volunteered to put a poster up. I gave her a<br><br>small <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> stack of the half-sheet flyers, and she<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> said she’d put them out.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I also talked with a man for a long time, who wavered<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> between understanding that the US was in Iraq and<br><br>Afghanistan/Pakistan <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> because<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> it served the whole ruling class -- when I said this to him, he<br><br>agreed <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> -- and<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> talking about the wars as “Bush’s mess”, that he started the Iraq<br><br>War <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> because<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Saddam had tried to kill his father, etc. He was very mad about<br><br>the <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> wars. The conversation was quite<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> friendly. He read the first<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> paragraph while I was there, and he argued that it was beside the<br><br>point that<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the drone attacks into Pakistan were “cowardly”, what was<br><br>important was that<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> they were killing civilians. It<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> wouldn’t be any better if it was troops the imperialists were<br><br>sending across<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the border to kill. He agreed when I said the motivation behind<br><br>the <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> drones was to avoid US casualties, and limit domestic<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> opposition to the wars.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I also swung by the cab stand around 24th and Union, and<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> every cabbie there took one, thanked me, etc. I talked with one<br><br>man <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> (again there was a language barrier)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> who I think was trying to ask me “Are you arguing that the US is<br><br>there <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> to bring<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> peace?” When I did finally get it<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> across that no, the US isn't bringing peace, it is dropping bombs<br><br>on <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> civilians, he smiled and shook my hand<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> vigorously, “yes, they are dropping bombs on the people”.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> In all, I handed out 62 SAIC leaflets in about an hour.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>><br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:59:10 +0000<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> The VFP action (10-15 people) was probably the biggest since<br><br>Folklife <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> weekend. Three ANSWER people were also there. One person told me<br><br>that <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Marty and Anton had gotten the Oct. 17 info into the VFP minutes,<br><br>which <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> is good; and nearly everyone I talked with about the demonstration<br><br>was <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> aware of it.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> While there, I passed out 62 more leaflets (most lySAIC). 3-4<br><br>pro-war <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> comments were a good reminder that the battle for the hearts and<br><br>minds <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> of the masses continues. Also talked with someone about putting<br><br>the <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> demonstration info on stickers (he likes to put up political<br><br>stickers <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> around town), and I’m pretty sure that he'll do it. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> University Avenue, Thursday evening---<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Passed out 52 leaflets in about 1 hour 20 minutes. One young guy<br><br>had <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> already gotten it at Hempfest, and said he liked it. Another young<br><br>guy <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> was very happy to get the leaflet, but very unhappy that he’s<br><br>going to <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> be in Portland on the 17^th . Wondered if I knew if there was<br><br>going to <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> be an eighth anniversary demonstration there, but I couldn’t<br><br>answer. A <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> young woman wanted three leaflets.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Frank<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:chr2eemail@comcast.net" target=_blank>chr2eemail@comcast.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:antiwar@lists.hcoop.net" target=_blank>antiwar@lists.hcoop.net</A><br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:50:57 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Subject: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> 1) I passed out 60 of some combination of the SAIC and “Mobe”<br><br>flyers on <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Broadway this evening. Best response was from a woman my age who<br><br>said “I <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> agree w/ that TOTALLY” when she saw what the leaflets were about.<br><br>She <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> was in a rush, but upon returning from her errand she thanked me<br><br>some <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> more. The only negative comment was from a guy who asked, “What<br><br>are you <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> going to do when they land at Alki?”<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Ran into several anti-war people who I already know, and gave them<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> details about the September 2 meeting: They included:<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> --The owner of a bookshop who said that she would clear space on<br><br>her <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> bulletin board to post the flyer, which she did.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> --WWP’s Jim M. First words were to ask about the demonstration. (I<br><br>was <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> worried that WWP hadn’t gotten the invitation to the first meeting<br><br> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> because we didn’t have a good address, but it turned out that he’d<br><br>seen <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the Indymedia announcement. Now also have his phone number.)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> --PM of the old SCCCAWC. Unhappy that there’s no longer a mass<br><br>anti-war <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> organization at SCCC. Very happy to hear the news of the<br><br>demonstration <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> and the formation of this mobilizing effort. (Of the people who I<br><br>talked <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> with about the 2^nd , I think that he’s most likely to attend.)<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> --M, originally of IVAW. Another person who expressed enthusiasm<br><br>about <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> the demonstration, which he’d heard about through our e-mailings. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Unfortunately, he’s soon moving to California.<br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> 2) Reports of leafleting experiences have begun to be posted here,<br><br>which <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> I think this is just what we should do. It gives us a concrete<br><br>picture <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> of what we’re doing, where we might pick up slack, and so on. <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> Additionally, I think that news of articles, postings, radio <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> announcements, etc., should also be posted here. For example, SDS<br><br>Tacoma <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> today posted the information from the flyer on its website.<br><br>Further, <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> SAIC has had experience in trying to keep reports of leafleting, <br><br><br> <br><br><br>> postering and so on all in one thread. 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