<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:Arial;}</style></head><body>Anton,<br><br>The Uptown was booked, so she got the Panama Hotel TEA & COFFEE HOUSE <strong>...</strong> 607 South Main, Seattle. (7-9 p.m.)--Fk.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br>From: Anton Black <ANTON666@OZ.NET><br><br>To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br><br>Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:22:08 +0000 (UTC)<br><br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Re Sept 16th<br><br><br><br>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">Phil called and said Helen can reserve space there.<br>--Anton<br><br>http://vvawai.org http://vfp92.org<br><br><br><br> http://antonblack.blogspot.com/<br><br>--- chr2eemail@comcast.net wrote:<br><br>From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>To: anton@vvawai.org<br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Re Sept 16th<br>Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 00:44:25 +0000 (UTC)<br><br>I'm in favor.--Fk.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br><br>From: Anton Black <br><br>To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br><br>Sent: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:47:46 +0000 (UTC)<br><br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Re Sept 16th<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif">My notes have Uptown Expresso-- Belltown(?) as our second choice. Are we going with that?<br><br>--Anton<br><br>http://vvawai.org http://vfp92.org<br><br><br><br> http://antonblack.blogspot.com/<br><br>--- ejrd1993@hotmail.com wrote:<br><br>From: Eric Gordan <br>To: antiwar <br>Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Re Sept 16th<br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:30:27 -0700<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On the subject of the meeting on the 16th, we went by Kaladi Coffee last night, and it was shut up tight, so I don't think it will work for an evening meeting.<br><br>> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:19:17 -0700<br>> From: iskra@riseup.net<br>> To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br>> <br>> Here's how today's healthcare rally went:<br>> <br>> I passed out 150 half-sheets in under 1.5 hours. I was actually <br>> surprised at how many people were extremely supportive of the flyer's <br>> headline. There was only one sort-of-hostile comment, and only two <br>> others who said they disagreed. Of course, not everyone wanted a <br>> leaflet, and many of these people may have either been outright <br>> supporters of the Afghanistan war or undecided (or opponents of the war <br>> who didn't see the point in going to a march).<br>> <br>> Some highlights:<br>> *A Quaker read the leaflet and came back to say he'd put it up at their <br>> meeting house in the U District. I asked if he wanted a few more flyers <br>> to pass out and he took about 10.<br>> *I asked an FSP woman if they were going to be there and she said "yes," <br>> and I said I'd be sure to email the next meeting information to them. <br>> (Actually, they have been getting it all along.)<br>> *A VFP guy said he'd be there and that he had been getting the mailings <br>> (from Anton or Marty I assume). He said he had been too busy to make it <br>> to our meetings so far but I said he'd hear about the next one on <br>> September 16 as soon as we had the location confirmed. (I hope this is <br>> in progress.)<br>> <br>> --Edward<br>> <br>> <br>> chr2eemail@comcast.net wrote:<br>> > The protest against torture-Judge Bybee was attended by about 10-12 <br>> > people. My main objective was to talk with people---particularly <br>> > groups---about getting behind building for October 17. And this was easy <br>> > to do in such a small crowd. But WCW, of course, already knew all about <br>> > it, while the PDA circles were polite but non-committal. An unconnected <br>> > guy said that he would be at the demonstration. I passed out 15 leaflets.<br>> > <br>> > Total reported by all to date: 1333.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>> > <br>> > To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:49:50 +0000 (UTC)<br>> > <br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 23^rd and Jackson, Sunday, 8-29.<br>> > <br>> > Passed out 40 leaflets advertising the event, which I think was good <br>> > considering that there were few people there. About 10 of these went to <br>> > the youth march which formed up at the same place. (There were about <br>> > 8-10 youths present, the majority of whom wanted leaflets. Of the 15 or <br>> > so adults, only a few wanted leaflets.)--Fk.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: Eric Gordan<br>> > <br>> > To: antiwar<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:49:46 +0000 (UTC)<br>> > <br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I was out doing mass work from 11:30 to 1:30 today, and I split my time <br>> > between three locations.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Broadway:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Foot traffic generally slow. Rate of interest comparatively low <br>> > relative to the rate I had last weekend on the streets in the CD, but <br>> > not bad. Only one negative comment, from someone who identified himself <br>> > as military, and disputed reasons for the war that I gave. I gave one <br>> > to a young man who identified himself as an RCP supporter. I recognized <br>> > him, but I don't know his name, and I didn't have a chance to converse <br>> > with him. No other real conversations, but a good handful of comments <br>> > like "keep up the good work", "I support you all the way", and "the <br>> > President sure isn't going to [end the wars]". Passed out about 15 <br>> > leaflets with the demo announcement.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > University District:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Foot traffic also slow, perhaps slower than Broadway. I had one <br>> > conversation with an older man who agreed with the headline. When he <br>> > said he thought it was because of "stupidity", I countered, describing <br>> > the bases for the wars as I understood them, and he agreed with that, <br>> > also, but he kept going back to "stupidity" as the root. As we talked <br>> > more, it was clear that he had some strange ideas about things in <br>> > general. Passed out only 10, partly as a result of this man. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 23rd & Union:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > At the same location where I leafletted several cab drivers last <br>> > weekend, there was a moderate-sized Muslim gathering breaking up, so I <br>> > paused to leaflet. A young kid, probably 10, who was moderately fluent <br>> > in English translated for me to his father (?) explaining that the <br>> > leaflet was opposing the wars in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The kid was <br>> > _very_ excited about the leaflet, and asked first for one, then for <br>> > four, and then for "a whole bunch", "to give to everyone". I stayed <br>> > outside the gathering place, and leafletted people as they left, and he <br>> > ran inside to leaflet. 100% of those who passed by me took a leaflet, <br>> > and between the two of us, we passed out about 60. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Since I was bussing between the three places, I also leafletted the all <br>> > of bus drivers and a couple of the passengers. I didn't have as good a <br>> > reception on the busses this time as I have other times I tried it. I <br>> > think it depends a lot on the route, time of day, day of week, and how <br>> > crowded the bus is (the more crowded the better, up to a point).<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > In total, 97 leaflets passed out.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:07:57 +0000<br>> > From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>> > To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > University Ave., early-afternoon Saturday:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Phil and I passed out about 70 leaflets with advertisements for O-17. <br>> > After first rejecting it, several people came back to get a leaflet when <br>> > it registered on them what it was about. When intently reading it as he <br>> > walked away, one guy exclaimed, “totally!” re: something he’d read.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Phil had 2-3 quite wide-ranging political discussions.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I talked with an older guy who’s around FSP. He hadn’t heard about the <br>> > demonstration, and was enthusiastic for it. But he thought that FSP must <br>> > be part of the Oct.17 Mobilization and just hadn‘t spread the word yet. <br>> > I explained that it wasn’t, and told him about the meeting, etc. He <br>> > replied: “Yeah, we should be part of that. I’ll talk to Chris.“<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > So we’ll see what happens. (FSP and Radical Women people have received <br>> > all of our e-mailings, by the way.)<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: Eric Gordan<br>> > <br>> > To: anntiwar<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:23 +0000 (UTC)<br>> > <br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I wasn’t able to get to the demo downtown today, but I was<br>> > <br>> > able to get out for a while later, around 5. I almost didn’t get out, <br>> > because my time was tight, and the<br>> > <br>> > printer kept jamming, but I did finally get 100 SAIC leaflets printed. <br>> > I still had about 50+ of the coalition<br>> > <br>> > half-sheets. I went to the<br>> > <br>> > Garfield “community” event, which was very small, maybe 75 people there<br>> > <br>> > total. It was just a lot of booths<br>> > <br>> > advertising replacement windows, Pepsi, etc. There were also a few <br>> > non-commercial booths, like a woman<br>> > <br>> > with some org that wasn’t familiar who was trying to get Single Payer <br>> > “on the<br>> > <br>> > table” in DC, and some kind of foster care agency, and others. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I had a couple of conversations there. One clean cut young<br>> > <br>> > guy selling something took a leaflet and started asking questions -- <br>> > what does<br>> > <br>> > this title mean? Isn’t the US removing troops from Afghanistan? Why is <br>> > the US<br>> > <br>> > there? The older man he had been<br>> > <br>> > talking to when I came up jumped in and explained that it was for <br>> > control of territory,<br>> > <br>> > no, it wasn’t about helping the Afghan people, etc. He had some facts <br>> > wrong (like he thought there was<br>> > <br>> > significant oil there), but he understood US motives well.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > After about 20 minutes there, though, I had made the circuit<br>> > <br>> > and offered everyone there a leaflet. <br>> > <br>> > So I circulated through the neighborhood, walking along 23rd, across<br>> > <br>> > Cherry, up to Union. There are a<br>> > <br>> > number of coffee places along there that cater to cab drivers and there are<br>> > <br>> > other small storefronts. <br>> > <br>> > There were a moderate number of people out on the streets, and a high<br>> > <br>> > percentage of them took leaflets. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On that walk, I had several good conversations, one with an<br>> > <br>> > Asian woman behind the counter at a coffee place. When I offered her a <br>> > leaflet, she took one, and asked what<br>> > <br>> > is this about. When I explained<br>> > <br>> > (there was a little language barrier) she said, “yes, why not! The <br>> > soldiers should all get out of<br>> > <br>> > there”, and she volunteered to put a poster up. I gave her a small <br>> > stack of the half-sheet flyers, and she<br>> > <br>> > said she’d put them out.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I also talked with a man for a long time, who wavered<br>> > <br>> > between understanding that the US was in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan <br>> > because<br>> > <br>> > it served the whole ruling class -- when I said this to him, he agreed <br>> > -- and<br>> > <br>> > talking about the wars as “Bush’s mess”, that he started the Iraq War <br>> > because<br>> > <br>> > Saddam had tried to kill his father, etc. He was very mad about the <br>> > wars. The conversation was quite<br>> > <br>> > friendly. He read the first<br>> > <br>> > paragraph while I was there, and he argued that it was beside the point that<br>> > <br>> > the drone attacks into Pakistan were “cowardly”, what was important was that<br>> > <br>> > they were killing civilians. It<br>> > <br>> > wouldn’t be any better if it was troops the imperialists were sending across<br>> > <br>> > the border to kill. He agreed when I said the motivation behind the <br>> > drones was to avoid US casualties, and limit domestic<br>> > <br>> > opposition to the wars.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I also swung by the cab stand around 24th and Union, and<br>> > <br>> > every cabbie there took one, thanked me, etc. I talked with one man <br>> > (again there was a language barrier)<br>> > <br>> > who I think was trying to ask me “Are you arguing that the US is there <br>> > to bring<br>> > <br>> > peace?” When I did finally get it<br>> > <br>> > across that no, the US isn't bringing peace, it is dropping bombs on <br>> > civilians, he smiled and shook my hand<br>> > <br>> > vigorously, “yes, they are dropping bombs on the people”.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > In all, I handed out 62 SAIC leaflets in about an hour.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:59:10 +0000<br>> > From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>> > To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > The VFP action (10-15 people) was probably the biggest since Folklife <br>> > weekend. Three ANSWER people were also there. One person told me that <br>> > Marty and Anton had gotten the Oct. 17 info into the VFP minutes, which <br>> > is good; and nearly everyone I talked with about the demonstration was <br>> > aware of it.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > While there, I passed out 62 more leaflets (most lySAIC). 3-4 pro-war <br>> > comments were a good reminder that the battle for the hearts and minds <br>> > of the masses continues. Also talked with someone about putting the <br>> > demonstration info on stickers (he likes to put up political stickers <br>> > around town), and I’m pretty sure that he'll do it. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>> > <br>> > To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC)<br>> > <br>> > Subject: Re: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > University Avenue, Thursday evening---<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Passed out 52 leaflets in about 1 hour 20 minutes. One young guy had <br>> > already gotten it at Hempfest, and said he liked it. Another young guy <br>> > was very happy to get the leaflet, but very unhappy that he’s going to <br>> > be in Portland on the 17^th . Wondered if I knew if there was going to <br>> > be an eighth anniversary demonstration there, but I couldn’t answer. A <br>> > young woman wanted three leaflets.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Frank<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > <br>> > From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<br>> > <br>> > To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<br>> > <br>> > Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:50:57 +0000 (UTC)<br>> > <br>> > Subject: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Report, one mass-work thread?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 1) I passed out 60 of some combination of the SAIC and “Mobe” flyers on <br>> > Broadway this evening. Best response was from a woman my age who said “I <br>> > agree w/ that TOTALLY” when she saw what the leaflets were about. She <br>> > was in a rush, but upon returning from her errand she thanked me some <br>> > more. The only negative comment was from a guy who asked, “What are you <br>> > going to do when they land at Alki?”<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Ran into several anti-war people who I already know, and gave them <br>> > details about the September 2 meeting: They included:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --The owner of a bookshop who said that she would clear space on her <br>> > bulletin board to post the flyer, which she did.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --WWP’s Jim M. First words were to ask about the demonstration. (I was <br>> > worried that WWP hadn’t gotten the invitation to the first meeting <br>> > because we didn’t have a good address, but it turned out that he’d seen <br>> > the Indymedia announcement. Now also have his phone number.)<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --PM of the old SCCCAWC. Unhappy that there’s no longer a mass anti-war <br>> > organization at SCCC. Very happy to hear the news of the demonstration <br>> > and the formation of this mobilizing effort. (Of the people who I talked <br>> > with about the 2^nd , I think that he’s most likely to attend.)<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > --M, originally of IVAW. Another person who expressed enthusiasm about <br>> > the demonstration, which he’d heard about through our e-mailings. <br>> > Unfortunately, he’s soon moving to California.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > 2) Reports of leafleting experiences have begun to be posted here, which <br>> > I think this is just what we should do. It gives us a concrete picture <br>> > of what we’re doing, where we might pick up slack, and so on. <br>> > Additionally, I think that news of articles, postings, radio <br>> > announcements, etc., should also be posted here. For example, SDS Tacoma <br>> > today posted the information from the flyer on its website. Further, <br>> > SAIC has had experience in trying to keep reports of leafleting, <br>> > postering and so on all in one thread. I think that this is a convenient <br>> > way of keeping track of this info that seems to work well for us, and <br>> > can work well for this united front effort.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Cheers,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Frank<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to <br>> > on Facebook. Find out more. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. 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