<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;">Meeting minutes are OK. We should ad or send a second message saying we are developing a listserv as an organizing tool, so people will know how we are doing this (not necessarilly in minutes). An easy form for doing a webpage is a blog. <BR><BR>I'll take a stab at getting us an email/ web something. <BR>--Anton<BR><BR>http://vvawai.org http://vfp92.org
http://antonblack.blogspot.com/<BR><BR>--- chr2eemail@comcast.net wrote:<BR><BR>From: chr2eemail@comcast.net<BR>To: antiwar@lists.hcoop.net<BR>Subject: [Oct. 17 Seattle] Meeting report is hanging fire, other<BR>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:26:40 +0000 (UTC)<BR><BR><FONT size="3">
<P>All,</P>
<P>I sent this out two days ago, but due to a mistake I made that’s unrelated to hcoop none of you received it. So I‘m sending it again. Meanwhile, the main issues that I raised have been at least partially dealt with, i.e., Edward and Phil also favor sending out the meeting summation, and Anton has spoken on the poster/flyer issue.--Fk.</P>
<P>Dear comrades,</P>
<P>Going a month without meetings means that we’re going to have to deal with a lot by using the listserv and telephone. I don’t know what everyone else’s experience in doing things this way is, but mine is that it leads to a lot of frustration when there’s deafening silence on live issues, and that this also prevents moving ahead. Take the two current examples:</P>
<P>1) Anton and Alex got right on top of the meeting report, and I sent out a proposal that condensed Alex’s draft, which Alex agreed with. But four days later it just sits there because we at least need a majority in favor in order to send it out. And I think that it’s <EM>important</EM> to get out because:</P>
<P>a. In order to make October 17 a live issue in the area (and draw more people into building for it) means that we ourselves have to be live about circulating information about it---lots of info, and repeatedly. So this is our first <EM>definite</EM> information. </P>
<P>b. A secondary issue is that various organizations that are members of the National Assembly Against War and Occupation may yet try to organize a competing event. But the more motion we get going, and the more widespread is the knowledge of our call to build the event we’ve scheduled, the more difficult this becomes for them. </P>
<P>2) I didn’t remember anyone volunteering to do a draft flyer/poster on Aug. 2, so I did an admittedly rough one (and I tend to agree with Edward’s one criticism of it). But it’s important to have this out in a timely fashion too. We actually have two people waiting for it, I believe, and we ourselves can obviously begin using it in various ways ourselves. Yet it’s also just sitting there.</P>
<P>So my conclusion is that we’re either going to have to get livelier with the electronic tools at our disposal, or have more meetings. What do you all think?</P>
<P>In struggle,</P>
<P>Frank </P>
<P>(Actually, I don’t know if this earlier message went through either, so here it is again.)</P>
<P>1) I do think that we want to get out this report ASAP, but so far only Helen, Alex and me have spoken in favor of the condensed form. Therefore the rest of you should say yea or nay, with suggested revisions if you say the latter.</P>
<P><BR>2) Edward has set up an hcoop listserv that seems to work much better than the one at yahoo. So I think that we should use hcoop, and I’ll close the one at yahoo within a day or so.</P>
<P>3) I posted a rough suggestion for a flyer/poster on the hcoop listserv, but in composing it two questions came up: </P>
<P>a. We didn’t decide on a <STRONG><EM>time</EM></STRONG><EM></EM> for the O-17 demonstration. I therefore used 1:00 p.m., which seems logical for a Saturday, but is it agreeable to all of you?</P>
<P>b. We have no way for people to <STRONG>contact </STRONG>us. One way to resolve this would be to set up a simple webpage with an email address plus downloadable versions of the flyer/poster on it. (We could use some generic name like “October 17 Mobilization.”) Are there any volunteers to set up a dummy that we can approve?</P>
<P>All for now,<BR>Frank</P></FONT>_______________________________________________
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